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hi everybody my name is Tim galet I am a

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retired Admiral worked in the Navy for

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32 years and uh and then went into a

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government agency which I'll talk about

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uh now I'm a private consultant and uh I

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got into this Arena um through

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interesting way which I'll share with

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you but I just want to start off and say

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it's an honor to be with you all I'm

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keenly aware that I'm an infant in this

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subject and I'm standing on the

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shoulders of many giants like Gary and

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Chris and jacqu and Hal and so uh I hope

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that I can contribute in some way and

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it's uh really terrific to be here tomor

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yesterday is going to be really tough to

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top uh but hopefully I'll start things

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off right I also want to thank uh Peter

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you and your team for uh providing such

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great accommodations for the speakers

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we're I think we're all staying at this

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hotel noou it's a Japanese themed hotel

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I had a I had a tour in Japan and it was

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nice for me to kind of relive some of

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that and uh and see some of the probably

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what is the the most the cultural icon

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of Japan and that's the luxury

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toilet and uh but actually if anybody

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who's staying at this hotel it's really

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an AI toilet which if it's got

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everything bells and whistles and

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whatever okay

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um soell and whistles that's right

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that's right anyways so um first off I

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want to begin the the discussion just by

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U reflecting on Peter's presentation

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yesterday uh I'm a scuba diver and I'm a

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naturalist and I I just visited the

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galpagos islands with my wife and what I

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kind of struck me when I was there is

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the incredible diversity of of life in

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the galpagos islands and it it's kind of

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uh on your presentation Peter it made me

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think that why wouldn't there be a

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diversity of non-human intelligence one

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first of all biologically these are all

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non-human intelligences right here and

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when you go underneath the sea it's

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remarkable how how um just fascinating

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different life forms are but at the same

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maybe biological non-biological

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diversity in intelligences is this is

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just something to think about but um my

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presentation is going to focus on a more

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mundane topic pardon me and that's the

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government how uh so many people are Mis

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understanding what's going on with the

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government and their reaction to UAP and

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having I don't know I guess the um

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stubbornness to stay in the government

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for 36 years and people like Chris and

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Carl both know what that's like um I

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thought it'd be helpful to explain uh

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the I guess just the what's going on

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right now and this will help inform Soul

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going forward with the policy

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recommendations Etc so uh but quick

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about me again at 32 years in the Navy

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this is my dad saring me in at the Naval

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Academy in 1985 and I for 32 years I was

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an oceanographer and I I just loved it

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um I then LED this agency the national

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Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

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and this is the nation's climate weather

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Ocean agency and we had uh basically

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20,000 people that uh with A7 billion

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annual budget 18 satellites

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environmental satellites 16 ships nine

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aircraft some of which fly through

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hurricanes and a whole Armada of boats

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and scuba divers characterizing and

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predicting and managing our ocean

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resources and it was a thrill and this

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is going to this is going to sort of of

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uh be the content of of my examples when

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I speak about how the government can

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work well and when it doesn't um and

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then of course just about me I uh I am a

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my favorite jobs are I'm a husband and a

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father to these fine people and uh I've

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told some people this but my wife Karen

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was in the Navy and we met at graduate

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school studying oceanography and she's

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the entire reason I'm here I've always

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been fascinated with UAP but she's the

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one who said Tim you have a voice you

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you need to use it and and so if I

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contribute anything good today and going

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credit and I also want to point out my

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three daughters um I'm really pleased

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that we have women in this room leading

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the discussions and the thought like

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Diana and IIA and beatric and Leslie

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wherever you are Leslie uh wonderful uh

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that's that's a great thing because I I

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think most of the the history of UAP in

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the study has been dominated by white

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men and I think we we do seeing more

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diversity in the topic and in the

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you I appreciate that so my interest in

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UAP was a lot like beatric because I was

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the superintendent of the Naval

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Observatory and that slide you put about

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how big the Milky Way galaxy is and and

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how how big the universe is I got to

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appreciate that in a big way leading the

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astrophysicists at this terrific agency

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and um and and so I had thought about

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that deeply from my time here read a lot

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on cosmology and astrophysics and so to

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think that we're the only intelligent

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species in the universe is incredibly

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arrogant and and that's that's sort of

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the what I took away from that job but

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then I had if you will an experience and

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some this is a bit of a repeat from my

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SCU talk earlier this year but I think a

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lot of people have not heard it

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uh so when I was a one-star Admiral

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working for us Fleet forces command in

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Norfolk a four-star Admiral command in

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charge of all the ships in the Navy that

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are training Stateside they were running

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an exercise in 2014 to 2015 where Ryan

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Graves was operating in he was flying

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his F-18 Hornet Super Hornet off the USS

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theater Roosevelt my job I was the chief

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meteorologist of the Navy and so all my

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weather guessers meteorologists or

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aerograph were on Navy ships like the

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USS theater r forecasting weather very

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critical safety of flight Mission and

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during that time uh I received a email

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on the Navy secret network from my boss

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the operations officer at Fleet forces

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command he was a two-star Admiral all

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the ades were one and two star Admirals

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like me I was in a support command

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others were operational like St grou

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commanders the Roosevelt and others and

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uh and the the topic of the email was

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urgent safety of flight issue and the

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content of the email was fairly brief it

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just said if any of you know what these

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are tell me ASAP we're having numerous

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near midair collisions and we're going

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to have to shut the exercise down if we

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don't stop and attached was the goast

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video that everyone's seen now and this

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was and so a lot of my thought

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beforehand was crystallized in that I

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knew that was not our technology because

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we the US government's research and

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development Enterprise does not test and

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evaluate in training ranges for the

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safety issues they were causing so I I

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knew immediately that was not ours it

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wasn't our adversaries I was pretty read

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into all of our adver adversaries

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Advanced Technologies and and then I

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knew and uh and so I didn't say much but

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the next day my email was wiped from my

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computer and everybody else who received

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it and then even worse in terms of the

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reaction uh I would go to weekly

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meetings with all the people who were at

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ease on that email with my boss and his

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his operations officer and no one ever

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talked about it this was having Ryan and

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his fellow Pilots a major safety flight

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issue he was having to develop the own

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mitigation measures on himself and what

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this whole over classification issue

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because it was obviously a sap I knew

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that and that's why I never spoke about

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it at those meetings but that that over

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classification if you want to call it

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that was forcing a failure in leadership

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that I couldn't or my fellow Admirals

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could not look out for Ryan and his

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fellow pilots and that that that is a

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problem and that's something we have to

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correct and that's why I'm speaking out

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about this and I seriously don't know

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why other Admirals and who are retired

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aren't either but now uh so I support

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Ryan's Americans for safe Aerospace I'm

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on his Advisory Board and yes I think

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you and he's doing a terrific thing in

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encouraging the FAA and commercial

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pilots RIT large to to not be afraid to

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report to improve our understanding of

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what's Happening Here and to make our

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Aerospace safe so just a really terrific

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Mission and I'm supporting based on my

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background but also I've joined ai's uh

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project it's a great photo huh uh and uh

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because I'm really keen on the

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scientific method and his application of

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it to UAP research and he's just a

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delight to be around and learn from um

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and where I want to go with that

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scientific research UAP is somewhere

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that suits me and that's that's that's

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the the undersea piece because that's

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what I know that's my network that's my

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knowledge and and we know we know we

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we've observed these going trans medium

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and in fact just in the year and a half

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or so that I've become active and have

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started interviewing people I have met

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dozens of people who commercial military

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coast guard Mariners and submariners who

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have had observations I don't have any

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data yet that's the next step but this

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is several dozen people that have seen

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phenomenal in our oceans in the tropical

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Eastern Western Pacific the Gul of

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Mexico the Caribbean the Mediterranean

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and the Indian Ocean and and the North

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Atlantic and Eastern Seaboard so this is

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happening and I'm working working to get

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a better understanding of it and get

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data and um and I'll talk a little bit

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about that what's interesting is the

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increasing acceptance of this so this

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gentleman Victor vova was really the

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equivalent of Neil Armstrong um for the

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UN for the ocean in 2019 I partnered

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with him when I was leading Noah uh and

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he conducted this expedition to dive in

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all the Deep trenches of the world with

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that that deep diving submersible you

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see there and uh he he did this on his

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own dime and he shared the data with us

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and we put his our scientist on his ship

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and it was just a really terrific

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Expedition or worldwide but afterwards

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in 2021 he let me know he was going to

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test out a new sonar on a ship and he

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was going to do it off Southern

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California and I thought ah okay well we

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know we observed UAP going in and out of

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the water and places around SoCal and I

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didn't know his thought on this topic

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but I sent him an email and said do you

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want to do an expedition like none other

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uh I have some coordinates for you if

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you want to look and because I thought

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possibly we might want to see if there

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are evidences of these interacting with

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the seabed or even under sea

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infrastructure that might be places they

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go and uh he wrote me back and he said

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send me the coordinates and so I he did

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that he mapped these areas and he found

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feature that we identified before and

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mapped it that I think is anomalous I

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can't find a GE a marine geological

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explanation for it so our next step is

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to get a ROV on it and that's that's in

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the works it could be geology but the

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the folks I've sended to really have a

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hard time explaining it but anyways we

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have that and then uh I am uh I occupy

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two national body boards uh on the ocean

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one's the ocean studies board at the

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nationaly this other reports to the

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White House Ocean policy committee and

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uh and so my goal is to make undersea

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and transm medium UAP research a

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national ocean science priority not

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there yet wish me luck but we have some

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progress this man right here is Admiral

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retired Gary ruffed former Chief of

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Naval operations now he's the chair of

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the naval studies board at the

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nationaly similar to the ocean studies

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board but has a perview of classified

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information and I briefed him on this

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and I recommended that we look at all

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the ocean data that the government has

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Naval oceanographic office which I used

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to be in charge of Office of Naval

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intelligence and my agency Noah and see

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if we see any anomalous features in the

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data and uh and he thought it was a good

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idea and he he approved it in principle

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uh my next step is to get funding from

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those agencies and right now that's

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difficult and you'll see why as I go on

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U but that's that's all kind of the

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background here the main points I wanted

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to get here yeah how about this article

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um this was interesting but is is a

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little bit understanding about the

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government's response and and how to

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work with the government going forward

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so first off some examples from my

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history uh when I was at Noah in the

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last Administration this was my only

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Oval Office visit and it was a

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bipartisan Bill the president signed you

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see Senator suent republican from Alaska

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Senator White House Democrat from Rhode

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Island backing this bill I'm with

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Secretary of Commerce will baross and he

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signed it which was a great thing uh I

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never did a noval office visit after

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that because this was before Trump got

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as erratic and dangerous as he was and

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I'm just going to say that so I am not

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endorsing Trump in any way right here

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but I and I actually almost quit

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numerous times but I never had to

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compromise my integrity and I thought I

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thought our scientists needed good

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leadership so I stayed but at any rate

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this was a win we thought but going

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forward the White House defunded Us by

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about a billion dollars every year in

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the president's budget for the the four

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years I was in so we never had the money

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to do do it and so that's just an

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example of how the government works and

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doesn't sometimes and so uh one of many

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examples but um luckily Congress

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appropriated the money and we were still

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able to execute this great program to

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clean up our oceans um another one might

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be from this Administration and again

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I'm not trying to pick sides but so

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President Biden has been a champion for

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climate change response and and

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mitigation and greenhouse gas emission

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reductions are a big part of that and I

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think that's fine Renewables good uh we

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we are seeing global warming it is a

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good thing to curb it and eliminate it

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if possible um lot to say about that but

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one thing I have a problem with is these

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plans that White House put out for the

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dod the Navy and the dod are taking a

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doing a lot of work to reduce their

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emissions and it's just a drop in the

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bucket for what the US does r at large

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and it's a big distraction for what we

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really care about in in the dod and

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that's right now China Russia Iran North

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Korea and so I I just thought that

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that's just not a really to me that's a

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misplaced priority the dod should be

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focused on its Mission and we can work

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with the energy industry and doe to

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address climate so that's just one

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example and I mean here's the data us

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emissions have been dropping that's the

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b lower line and China's emissions are

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going through the roof they just built

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six coal plants that are more capacity

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than the entire world uh have for CO2

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emissions so we're not going to do a

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whole lot and if we task our Navy to do

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this it's not going to make a difference

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but that's just an example of sometimes

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priorities not being Square here is one

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where I think we got it right and and

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this was this issue of ocean mapping now

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our oceans are we I think betrix you

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talked about under sampling of of the uh

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the solar system Etc the ocean is one of

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the most undersampled spaces we know of

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and we haven't even mapped the seabed of

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our own exclusive economic zone by more

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than a half and we have not even

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explored the ocean volume only about 10%

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of it

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and so I put forth a proposal to the

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White House to develop a national

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strategy to map and explore oceans and

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they took it they took it on board and

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we had a we had a summit with Academia

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and private sector leaders we had all

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the agencies involved and and bottom

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line the plan still in place they're

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executing it and what you have is you

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have four really key elements of any

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government effort to work we had

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legislation so support from the Congress

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we had so we had a we then pass a law on

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Ocean mapping we had an the White House

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put out a plan a national strategy and

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plan to map our oceans and explore them

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and then we had an inter agency Council

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to to organize and and and the efforts

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across the government and to um make

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sure that plan was being followed to

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implement the plan and then lastly we

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had a federal advisory committee we had

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two in this case that that senior people

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thought leaders that could advise us to

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do it right and and so you sort of have

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that with the UAP legislation with the

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the the review panel But ultimately

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those are are the four pieces we need

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for any UAP effort in the government to

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work and when things aren't happening

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right now because you don't have all

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those in place so a few other examples

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space weather is solar flares affect our

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um our ionosphere and it can be a real

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problem that gentleman in the middle is

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astronomer Richard Carrington the

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Carrington event 1859 was this major um

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solar storm basically that caused uh

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electrical circuits and Telegraph lines

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to spark and stations to catch on fire

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and if we had that event today a solar

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storm like that the entire electrical

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grid across the world would fry and

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everything we take for granted GPS Wi-Fi

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it wouldn't work so the white house put

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together a a group called the Swarm the

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space weather operations and research

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and mitigation committee swarm and uh

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and they have an advisory Council called

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the swag the space weather advisory

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group God to love DOD acronyms and and

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we had legislation passed called the I

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won't even give you the name of that and

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and then we also had um we had a plan

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put forth so you had all those four

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elements and we're we're tackling space

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weather and that's a good thing Noah

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leads the the government space weather

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prediction capability and then that's

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what we're doing we're improving our

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predictive capability now one final

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example of I think the government

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getting it wrong this time is this topic

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now uh on on the field of space weather

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uh in the ionosphere when big mag when

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the Earth plates start pressing together

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before an earthquake it induces a

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current and you see increases in the

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total electron content uh of in the in

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the atmosphere they're observable and

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and you see data here this is those are

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latitude versus altitude on those two

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plots of the ionosphere before the

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tohoku earthquake and uh and so so this

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is a means for earthquake early warning

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the Europeans launched this Inspire

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project up there on the upper right to

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study this meanwhile what is is US

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Geological Survey doing nothing they

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they insist that if you're not using

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geology and seismology earthquakes can't

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be predicted and that's their bottom

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line I've approached them numerous times

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with this this and and they refuse to

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look elsewhere it's just such it's like

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Obi when he says why won we think out of

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the box uh and so uh and then I've gone

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to the White House the White House

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they're too locked in on climate change

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they didn't think this matters I mean

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when you look at the earthquakes in

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Syria and Morocco and what's going to

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happen in the Pacific Northwest the

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damage and destruction of these is on

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the order of a World War so tell me this

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should not be a priority so this is my

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example again of just sometimes the

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government just not getting it old ways

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of thinking misplaced priorities so what

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about UAP well let's talk about those

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areas that we need action the Hill's

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doing it right we got some good work

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with the house I just was approached by

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representative Luna she is interested in

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having another field hearing this time

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on Usos

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undercap uh so we'll see where we go

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with that and and that's good so there's

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action being taken and Carl looking

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forward to your presentation about the

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Schumer Amendment but what about the

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executive branch this is where things

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aren't going well you have this big

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disconnect between what the house the

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story David told and uh and of course

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the arrow office under Dr kirpatrick why

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is that and it's it's not

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complicated Sean can't do and say things

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without clearance from the SE def and

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above him the National Security Council

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and the White House and and likely dni

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and and everybody who's worked with the

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government in this room there's many

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they know how this works and that's this

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this white house does not want to

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disclose that's their policy and Sean is

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merely following that suit now um so and

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the same is going on with NASA if

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anybody saw that that uh the live

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meeting yeah what do you want to call

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that uh there was nothing there was Zero

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data there wasn't one example at least

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Sean showed that mle orb but yeah and

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this was such a non-event and and it's

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for the same reason they get their

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orders from the White House that's how

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it works and so there the policy

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currently today is non-disclosure and

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the two bodies we care about are the

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office of Science and Technology policy

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the National Security Council and

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probably others going forward so uh here

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are my recommendations for you Gary and

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Peter and first off I just want to say

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that your idea for soul to be a holistic

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approach combining hard science and the

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humanities is just brilliant please give

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these two leaders a big round of

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applause all right so three simple

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suggestions for these white papers and

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who to engage first off focus on this

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Schumer Amendment this is this is what

543
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we have to have done we absolutely this

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is the first step and uh and like we

545
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talked about yesterday the language in

546
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it is pretty incredible uh and so we

547
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want this done and uh now Hal you had a

548
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great observation about the private

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sector and those how to that's going to

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be thorny but uh but let's just get this

551
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out there and let's get a policy of

552
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disclosure and a good panel to help

553
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review on that um I realize some

554
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technology might have to remain

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classified but the the fact that we're

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being visited by non-human intelligence

557
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the public should know this and we

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should develop policy regarding our

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response to that the second thing is get

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the White House involved here's my final

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example that woman there is Louisa Koke

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she's the director of Noah's Office of

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Education and I spent many meetings in

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the white house with her to get that

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document passed it's our it's it's the

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national PL strategy for stem education

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I worked on it with the NASA

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administrator and and the Navy all the

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agencies that cared about stem which is

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almost all of them and uh and it was and

571
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it was a solid plan and then then were

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all the other parts so we we already had

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legislation from from Congress and then

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we this plan developed a committee this

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co- stem the Council on um uh uh stem

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education and and then we executed that

577
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plan with the federal advisory committee

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so you had all four parts working well

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these are the things I recommend Soul

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put forward in our papers and

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engagement and then finally uh the Next

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Generation and I'm I'm stealing this

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quote from IIA your your uh your El

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piece in in Diana's book the encounters

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book where she where Diana describes how

586
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I had took uh Aviation safety and

587
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changed it in a generation uh to remove

588
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the fear and stigma from reporting

589
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safety uh violations and and that's and

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what that did with a new generation you

591
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had this new culture and the same

592
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applies for UAP and what's wonderful is

593
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many of those people are in the room

594
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right now so this is happening it's not

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and we just need to keep that up and and

596
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this is like developing grad school and

597
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undergraduate curricula on UAP studies

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as well as research projects and PhD uh

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PhD work so this this is happening and

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let's let's do more of it and I use this

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picture from ai's latest meeting this is

602
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the whole Galler Galileo group from

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yesterday he had the the picture from

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last year's meeting and it was a lot

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smaller so this is a good thing um

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lastly uh I'm gonna kind of tee up

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Jonathan berties where are you

608
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Jonathan yes right there he's going to

609
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speak later today uh about involving

610
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entrepreneurs in in this and moving

611
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forward to research and study the

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phenomena and so um uh I think this is

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will be really important because we have

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so many opportunities here to advance

615
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with this understanding possibly these

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issues of our time energy transportation

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agriculture food security you name it

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biotechnology bi U biom medicine all of

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these we might be finding answers to

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some we already are through the research

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we're doing in this room

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so thank you all for your time and

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attention uh it's really great to be a

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part of this fantastic Endeavor and uh I